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To machine or Not to machine?
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Re:To machine or Not to machine? 7 Months ago Karma: 0
I see.
I won't take up any more of your time.

Thank you for taking the time to read what I have written.

God Bless
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We are trying to encourage creative thought and you clearly have done a lot of work on RMCM. What might help us is to learn more about what inquiry drives your thinking? What do you wish to accomplish with this work? Maybe we could meet on more neutral ground a bit to learn more about each other to find common ground, if possible. We appreciate your time as well.
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Re:To machine or Not to machine? 7 Months ago Karma: 0
We use the pendulum as our model.

Archimedes brought us the fulcrum. What is the other part of the lever called?
It has no name - we have defined it as the Chase - that which binds two or more fulcrums.
Atoms sub-atomic particles are all implementations of Levers (pendulums).

Now we understand that traditionally there are three classes of levers. However, if you turn the base of any of them 90 degrees (perpendicular) to the pull of gravity, then they too become pendulums.

So why complicate things? pendulum-lever energy-mass just different forms of the same thing.

Now what is the most common attribute of levers and pendulums?

They move mass.

Levers as described above provide us with a complete definition of complexity.
Ploymorphic multibehavioralsim.
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"We are trying to encourage creative thought and you clearly have done a lot of work on RMCM. What might help us is to learn more about what inquiry drives your thinking? What do you wish to accomplish with this work? Maybe we could meet on more neutral ground a bit to learn more about each other to find common ground, if possible. We appreciate your time as well."




Thank you.
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Re:To machine or Not to machine? 7 Months ago Karma: 0
A model of the universe.
I am driven by God.
What I hope to achieve is a common language that is applicable to all disciplines.
Something we can teach our children that enables them for the widest possible choice of pursuits.
And finally if this is a good model it will be the implementation or organic intelligence within an inorganic metabolism.
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Re:To machine or Not to machine? 7 Months ago Karma: 0
autognosticguru wrote:
According to The RMCM if all that moves is light, force, or mass, then it is a mechanism. In the RMCM realilty you may make this declaration, but in more general realities it would not be tru.and Life begins to emerge when the waste produced by that machine is fuel for another machine, and like wise the fuel used by the fist machine is the waste from the other machine.

THis is so wide a field of how life begins that it looks to me like plain foolishness. Everything I know based on modern research in biophysics would be outraged by such a thought.

I agree. I can only answer the questions that you ask.



I guess we've come to an impass as RMCM ideas seem to relate very little to anything about which we are trying to explore. If I can be of any help to you learning more relevant theories of what life is about, I would be glad to work with you. Such relevant theories are not models or wild ass guesses, but genuine scientific well grounded theories. I applaud your creative intentions, but where is the meaning?

Theories? No there is no theory involved. I have laid down my definitions and worked cautiously within those constraints.

Hierarchies are no theory they are well known.

What does science tell us about the difference between something that appears to move and that which moves?

The model distinguishes them without dismissing either. Movement is function iterating form and form implementing function.

It is an important distinction. Motion is quite different from movement.

The only thing that moves on your computer monitor is the light from the light emitting source. Without the encapsulation of motion we are left with the dismissal - the illusion of movement.

We instead encapsulate this as motion - the changing shape of flow.

According to neurologists and psychiatrists everything sensory in the brain is contrived.

There is no such thing as the mind.
What we refer to as the mind is an illusion born of events occurring in a place that is itself devoid of sensation - no feeling.
Of course it feels like a unity, rather than the orchestration that it really is.

Because there is no mind The RMCM simply encapsulate the phenomenon as the abstraction of experience.

The abstraction of experience is also known as trajectory.

You appear to want to constrain the behavior of governments, businesses, NGOs and I assume all power structures to keep them honest.
I want to see studies and statistics constrained by force of law.

My model does this. The newest or closest thing we have is forensics.
Cause effect form and function, regardless of what science discovers it will be one of these four.
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